We know of 60 monasteries who are very much against it, but the Fairfield Carmelites are the only ones willing to take a stand., November 20, 2021 The perennial Magisterium is the contract which exists between all the members of the Body of Christ. Spiritual abuse is an attack on the very soul of a person. (Image: www.fairfieldcarmelites.org) The Discalced Carmelite Sisters of Fairfield, Pennsylvania of the Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph were established in 2018, an outgrowth of a Carmel. I dont know. But I am in my 7th year of Sabbatical. ' Does that mean that the nuns has to hold her breath until given permission to breathe again? Today is the anniversary of the day I stepped foot . I cant speak to the permission to breathe thing which is more alarming. Luther would be delighted were it possible. I thought they were supposed to be obedient to the Pope. I am also heartbroken and very angry about this and I support your comments. The kind their like are dying and so they should because theyve traded Christ for the world. Clause #94 that particular clause to those who are seeking canonical recognition for a federation. We need the Carmelite nuns. But it is utterly naive to think the Chief Jesuit, now ruling our Church is concerned for either truth or charity. The other, doesnt appear to. Thank you, Father, for sharing. Since then, they have served the diocese through prayer and presence. Thanks Anne Marie for this post. Certainly I suppose there are many Catholics who believe My Pope, right or wrong. But it is surely naive and perhaps, very foolish to insist that anything the Holy Father says or does is ex cathedra and therefore infallible. CWR: You also have concerns about the formation of your novices. (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='MMERGE3';ftypes[3]='text';fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[4]='MMERGE4';ftypes[4]='text';fnames[5]='MMERGE5';ftypes[5]='text';fnames[6]='MMERGE6';ftypes[6]='number';fnames[7]='MMERGE7';ftypes[7]='radio';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Actor Eduardo Verstegui may run for president of Mexico, says conservative party there is dead, After Catholic University shooting death, family disputes DC police statements. Thank you for an alternate view to the story. https://www.carmelnj.org/. Archbishop Forte got the axe for talking to much. Take a look at the Morristown website if you dont believe me. You are privy to confidential information and presently set yourself up as the prejudiced apologist for an intervention which remains very dubious. Period. Solemn Profession , September 8, 2018 Click on the files, below, to hear parts of the liturgy and Sister's declaration of vows. Gabriella, the sum of your comments here is tantamount to hiding in the weeds. Thats incredible! You need to prove that this allegation is false, but it has to be a matter of proof. Carmel Of Jesus, Mary & Joseph Contact Number: +1-5706722122. All the discussions are about associations and federations., and the president of an association or federation has no authority over the members of the association. I am Australian-Vietnamese Professional translator in the last 25 years. It is quite the papal rock pile with which to verbally stone people who disagree with him. On the Flemington Carmel website she launched a salvo against Archbishop Vigan. We stand together in our efforts to be faithful to Our Lord and the charism He has given us through Our Holy Mother, St. Teresa of Avila. Thank you for shedding light on this story. Meiron, you are perfectly correct in saying that I was in the Flemington Carmel during the 1988 controversy. Donate fairfieldcarmelites.org This simply does not apply to this order. It is they themselves, nuns or former nuns, who are about to leave or have already left what for years was their home, to tell what they have suffered: mobbing, blackmail, manipulation, discrimination on the basis of nationality, violation of internal forum (i.e. Discalced Carmelites of Jesus, Mary and Joseph Cloistered Life The mask of the nice guy is being nixed. All will be made of stone and timber. The Discalced Carmelite Sisters of Fairfield and Vatican document The crowd became quiet[20] as each sister approached Mother Teresa, kissed the statue of the Virgin Mary she held in her hands, and asked her for permission to die. It is a farmhouse complex made up of several smaller buildings connected by "covered cloisters". If so, that is theft, according to the beautiful merciful rigidity of the Eighth and Tenth Commandments. Pentin has his views but I do not share them. Would the critical eye not be best directed toward those which resemble more a Mary Tyler Moore rooming house? It is not the monopoly of womens congregations and orders, it is amply found in mens communities and the diocesan priesthood. How many good priests have been accused of abuse, and acquitted, and still live under a cloud in peoples minds? But you, along with some dedicated Pope-haters, can make your assumptions. For me the TLM is the best expression of praising God. CWR: You are raising millions of dollars to build the Fairfield Carmelites a monastery. Think about 10 good people to be found in Sodoma and Gomohra. How things are managed and by whom should not get in the way of me being on my knees. They are not anything new and they usually repeat the same accusations: Rose colored glasses are not helpful in these situations and reflect an aversion to reality. Leslie, you are absolutely correct. Thank you, Lucy, for posting about the Carmelite Nuns in Loretto, PA. Ive been looking for one in PA that is faithful and not at variance with Rome. A spiritual daughter of a lace-maker family thanks you by sending a single rose from the garden which survived the frost. Catherine Bauer: Yes. This is intended to give the person more than enough time to freely decide to fulfill the vows or not. Discalced Carmelites of Jesus, Mary and Joseph Cloistered Life Spare us, O Lord. Then may God have mercy. Its making me look at this much more carefully than I have before. In 2021, the nuns wanted to return to Valparaiso, as they believed the implementation of Cor Orans was interfering with their way of life. Teresa of Jesus. Sr. Gabriela, the formation described in your article belongs in a cult. Mal, I certainly cannot speak to what Pope Francis hates or doesnt hate but if he doesnt hate the TLM then he has a curious way of treating it by seemingly doing everything in his power to suppress it via Traditionis Custodes. For these women, why imitate some of the externals of 16th Century Spain and fail to imitate the core values of St. Teresa: humility, obedience and love for the Church and her Hierarchy? Not even your existence.. Its Sunday. Valparaiso is a well-established community that can trace its lineage back 400 years to Mexico. Several weeks back there were a number of reports regarding the visitation. Found your response Mal. Max is not misinformed about the statements of the Carmelite General in 2017 when my sister told me that she was among the over 100 nuns at that gathering who heard what he said, and it did not include a ranting attack against enclosure, such as Fr. Ebnough is enough. At the same time, all prayers lost from contemplative communities, all Latin Mass lost/suppressed. Within the portals of the Carmelite Monastery one indeed . The Petrine Office is at the heart of the living Magisterium. If they no longer wish to do this, they have a choice to make. From the Preface: In the name of that transparency invoked so often by Pope Francis for the Church, the book opens glimpses of light on a serious problem within the consecrated life of women: the abuses of power, of conscience or sexual within orders, monasteries and institutes, that lead women and girls to put out the fire of their vocation and abandon the religious path they have undertaken, even after years. They were requested note: requested, not ordered to have the Latin Mass once a month in their chapel for the benefit of the laity. There needs to be greater oversight of monasteries by the Vatican. I must say that I do not agree with your views. . / Photo illustration. He frequently used to nostalgically after a satisfying dinner smoking his stucchino, recount this story [along with countless others]. Fr Martin is left alone to spew his heresy, the German bishops are let loose to corrupt the laity and yet a faithful religious order gets a visitation. And other comments speaking the truth do not? Informed sources have contributed a profile of what the reptiles in the Vatican have planned for communities of priests devoted to the ancient liturgy. If what the Church asks is difficult, is that any reason to abandon obedience? James Ignatius, I cant reply to your last comment since there is no button, so I am replying here. Francis should make amends by returning all stolen and ill-begotten funds to the Fairfield Carmelites. Thank you, Sister, for standing up for the truth, and for abused nuns. The only way a small community of, say 5 nuns, can manage this is to have outside people come into the cloister to do the work so that the nuns can have some time for praying. https://www.gloria.tv/post/cCnpRKVZbAvb6QHZBBNYhUQu7 Jesus Christ died to save the sinner. They love the Magisterium, they love the Church and its history. Both communities have a solid internet presence. Since you are trying to return to the Carmelite life as it was lived at Teresas time, it seems to me that it would be most fitting for you to follow the Rite of the Holy Sepulchre as she did. It has the fragrance of jealousy. Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph Jun 2013 - Present10 years 1 month Elysburg, Pennsylvania Education Capella University Doctor of Philosophy - PhDPsychology Capella University Master of Science. Those who appeal to the practice of evangelical obedience while taking self-satisfaction in Bergoglian praxis will one day have the credence of those who only followed orders in the last century. Just in case the superior says No, about the breathing? As I recall, Samaritans were a disfavored Jewish sect, not pagan. Maybe he did not get his information falsely accusing you of being one of the visitors from a documentor did he? Accusing the Pope of theft gets posted on this site? http://www.nytimes.com/1988/10/08/nyregion/5-nuns-in-new-jersey-break-away-over-break-with-tradition.html. Catherine Bauer: It is coming along well. It isnt a matter of whether the Philadelphia nuns were immature or not. Are you including the millions who faithfully accept Pope Francis in the us? Even the doors and windows are being made with traditional mortise and tenon joinery, used by woodworkers for hundreds of years, locking into place without nails. It indicates to me that Sr. Gabriela lacks a certain impartiality; so that even if she can be objective about facts she lacks what it takes to progress the positives and defend against confusion. The Holy Family of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph - Carmel Mission Contrasting, but to the same demonstration, Catholics immersed in teaching contraception and abortion are being treated with kids gloves. To reprimand the more guilty ones for their alleged spiritual weaknesses, the Abbess orders some to crawl on their knees in the refectory and make the sign of the cross with their tongues on the shoes of all the assembled nuns., https://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2011/12/sister-magdalena-of-cross-nun-who-made.html. They wrote many letters requesting exemptions, as have many other cloistered womens communities, and talked to their bishop, telling him we are being interfered with. She did not believe the life of a nun should be cushioned, but a hard, continually wearing away of your faults, along with a mindfulness of your surroundings and continued prayer. 8 Hours of devout prayer, living without electricity, building everything with their own hands, who can argue with their long-suffering lives for Gods glory and our salvation? I will be more likely to notice them, just as I noticed Merions mistakenly confusing the Flemington and the Morristown Carmels. New Age is omnipresent these days: The readership needs to understand that Sister Gabrielas position is adverse to those at Fairfield. We are greatly indebted to their steadfast fidelity to the Church. Ama, I know thats Latin but I cant find it in my Missal. There is a place for those who go away from others to pray- this is biblical. Andrew, A comparison between the workday activities of another contemplative order (Dominicans of Summit NJ) and the Fairfield Carmelites can be very revealing. Nothing is done in the South American Vatican police state without being confidently designed according to his taste or by his nod. As far as the breathing thing, I agree thats a whole different ballgame which makes it all the more imperative to get to the bottom of this. They see the Federations ability to interfere with their internal decisions as a negative, while you see it as a positive. Expose the rot. If and when correction is required it can only be realized when those attempting to achieve it are themselves speaking the truth in love and administering their authority without prejudice. Discalced Carmelites of Jesus, Mary and Joseph Cloistered Life Two entirely different monasteries. If implemented, Cor Orans will give control of the monastery over to a religious federation outside of the community and will give Vatican officials greater oversight into the day-to-day lives of the Carmelites. Were nearing Christmas and anticipate more dreadful depictions of the Nativity. Besides the obvious need for distraction what could be the motivation for her voluminous commentary and posts dished out with a passive-aggressive demeanor? Who charged you? It gives them the ability to take control of the monastery, evict the nuns and then have financial control over the property. Policy and governance may change, but religious vow obedience according to the Rule and Constitutions. Not according to any policy. Her (apparent) outstanding piety and the miracles that she performed were known throughout Spain, and even much of Europe. She would take us kids to Stations on Fridays. 2018-2022, Institute on Religious Life. And Ama is right: until the nuns can prove that the allegation is not true, there will always be a question in peoples minds. Extraordinary Carmelites to Start Foundation in Elysburg They are more interested in sides. Visiting Carmel of Jesus, Mary & Joseph simply bizarre. For many years, several Catholic monastic communities have taken advantage of their autonomy to practice their own version of what Catholicism is. But, having said that, I would like to say that I prefer the old crib scenes, even though it has three Kings. Home; Daily Life; Mass Schedule; Carmelite Nun Saints; Contact us; Mass Schedule. That is a pity. Because the communities associate around similar ideology, she went home perfectly fine she didnt want to stay here. But no, these people are close to the heart of the Holy Father. If you click on the image at the bottom of this paragraph, you will be taken directly to the secure Diocesan web page that facilitates on-line contributions. That would also solve any difficulty caused by Traditionis Custodes since that only concerns the Roman Rite. Pray for all religious, laity, our Holy Mother Church and the Mercy of God. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. It would not be happening without the heroic faith and support of women like Mary Bauer, mother of 6, one of whom is a Carmelite Nun herself. Well clarify it later For publicizing that statement Archbishop Forte was shortly thereafter cut loose. Mary Cuff falls into the same mistake of confusing a congregation, which has a Major Superior at its head with authority over the members, and an association/federation whose president is NOT a major superior and who has no authority over the member monasteries. Mal, when Pope Francis mocked hermneutique of continuity and exclaimed this is rupture it was the most shocking yet honest statement. OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT THIS RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY: Why did God use Noah, Melchizedek, Abraham and Moses? Can you not hold off until tomorrow? The Carmelites devote their lives to prayer, strive to live a life hidden with Christ, and honor the Blessed Virgin Mary. Fairfields perceived eccentricity of life off the grid does appear to serve the Teresian charism quite well. They believe the nuns assets would be better used for charitable ventures; the assets can be sold and the money given to the poor. Therefore there is no question of shutting it down. Given that you are guessing at what you do not know, I suggest that you check out the facts. The Carmel of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph in Valparaiso wishes to extend their fullest support and confirmation of what we have related herein. Surely the same nefarious face is manifested in the attack on the Fairfield and Valparaiso Carmels and indeed ultimately all the Carmels devoted to a faithful adherence to the Teresian charism. Ive been telling all my friends about their rebellion too. Pope Francis practices a court duplicity. He avoids direct attack while chastising unnamed rigorists and implements policy without articulating a statement contrary to the Perennial Magisterium. Im not a canon lawyer but it seems that the nuns and the people writing these articles are saying things that are opposite of what these documents are saying. The Pope and his cohorts are out to persecute their own people. John, Teresa, Therese, and Edith look out for so very many of us, I do believe and would so swear. If you value the news and views Catholic World Report provides, please consider donating to support our efforts. Fairfield and Valparaiso also dont have anything to do with the Carmelite Friars. Kathleen Reeves, where have I said anything about other people disagreeing with the Pope? Im also a member of WPI and you can find more information about me there. Perhaps added incentive, Marranos were subject to inquisition, passed on to progeny to comprehensively study the heart of faith in Jesus of Nazareth. In 1927, the Community established a Carmel in California. Stone masonry, timber framing, slate, and plaster are used to recreate the simple and humble style of our American heritage. Two daughter monasteries were established in Mexico. Check out where to stay in Elysburg and book an accommodation of your choice. What I say next, is accusative. Sister Gabriellas response has been elicited by me more than once and I have received a couple one even was a exhortation to courtesy but never was there engagement with issues. See https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5ed81890998e9c2c86a69dba/t/619a3fcaf11f7b42d6b3a408/1637498836933/Official+English+Translation+of+Archbishop+Carballo%27s+Letter+-+Nov.+1st%2C+2020.pdf. Mother Therese of the Carmel of Jesus, Mary, & Joseph in Fairfield, Pennsylvania, is looking for contractors to build a new monastery. This is the best comment here. I stand with you, with Pope Francis, with our Holy Mother Church. Opening and reading all mail is harsh, but its within the spectrum of normal practices in traditional cloistered monasteries. I dont need to become a nun to pray! On November 21, James posted a comment with the link to Mary Cuffs article at Crisis Magazine. Anna, these are excellent questions that really need answers. The practice of evangelical obedience in such a context is as walking the razors edge. The Vatican is invading the privacy of cloistered nuns by the institution of co-visitators. You can hardly find it anywhere! The other was in a similar condition but is now slowly growing and there is good hope for new members. After all, if it aint broke you dont fix it. The permission to breathe thing is NOT in the same category as those! You are hiding behind a pseudonym. Regardless of how anyone feels about Pope Francis, if an order is mandated from the Holy See, we obey. Contact for more information. . Just because St Teresa slept on her left side, doesnt mean we should all sleep on our left. Try to reciprocate in humility. Secondly, Cor orans makes a clear distinction between Congregations and Associations, and Associations have no authority to interfere in the internal life of the members. CWR: What will the sisters do if they get an unfavorable verdict from the apostolic visitation? First, if the particular monastery of nuns corporate charter was not in conformity with Cor Orans, it would have to amend its corporate charter to be in conformity with Cor Orans. I am posting the contents of the email which I recently sent to Ms. Cuff: Dear Mary Cuff, Not my idea of a crib, but it did reflect the year of mercy. They are trying to live as their foremothers did. Meantime I am noticing out and about what could appear to be forms of the same said abuse getting going and possibly progressing on a very grand scale and broad format yet without accountability. Yours magnifies the reality of this situation and clarifies it amply. The community decides who uses it and when and how. If you have any complaints to make of me in those areas, i would be very grateful to hear them. Now I am reading online (wherepeteris.org, 11/23) that the two nuns and the priest who made the visitation were threatened with arrest by the bishop of Lincoln (where Valparaiso is) what kind of bishop in this country threatens two nuns and a priest with arrest? Meanwhile the traditional and conservative orders are thriving and the Pope and his cohorts hate them with a vengeance. We faithful are patient and humble, brave and full of hope. Why is a liturgy pronounced by previous pontiffs as perennial and inviolable suddenly considered detrimental to Christian practice? Think what you want. Mueller, Sarah, Burke, et al. In any event. If you are interested in facts, I suggest that you study the documents. Dont the two go together? Agnes Johnsson, you were told to make coherence, clarity, and reading comprehension your friends. James, you remind me of Cato the Elder: Delenda est Carthago. In any case, I definitely agree that Mother Stella needs to respond to these claims in public. Hatred has nothing to do with the move to foster unity in the Church. You can read more about that here: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5ed81890998e9c2c86a69dba/t/619a3e5ecd592d4e10b2fd66/1637498462887/Joint+Letter+and+Reply+-+Dec.+14th%2C+2019.pdf You are gaining nobody to your point of view by this behavior, but making the rest of us look bad for trying to bring truth to this matter. That is all. The blog of the Summit Dominican posts about once/week and contains many photos of their contemplative manner of life. CWR: The community had a four-day apostolic visitation at the end of September. Such exercise of the papal office undermines the papacy itself and simultaneously undermines his own claim to papal authority. It would do well to recall a statement of sixteenth century Bishop Melchior Cano, O.P., theologian at the Council of Trent: Peter has no need of our lies or flattery. Sign up to receive a weekly email with news, analysis, and commentary from a voice you can trust! She knew she was called to another Carmel and she adjusted correctly. If a person decided it can no longer fulfill any of the vows, it is a personal decision hat cannot be blamed on a valid decision by the Church. https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2021/12/ex-ecclesia-dei-communities-facing.html#more She pointed us to Christ- same as Mary, Do whatever He tells you were her last words in Scripture. Pope Francis met with Macron recently and appears to have missed the opportunity to object to the proposed desecration of Notre Dame a proposal made with the approval of the Archdiocese of Paris by a priest. I will post the source. Above the relatively menial issues discussed here this is the heart of the issue. They make use of the traditional Latin Mass and breviary, and have prayer as their charism, or work, for the Church and her priests. When Elysburg was re founded, that subprioress was 26. The Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Fairfield, Pennsylvania There obviously needs to be a shakeup along with procedures to help disillusioned, disaffected women to renew their lives physically, mentally and spiritually. Otherwise there is no future for the Carmels. Videos Carmel of Jesus, Mary & Joseph 5523 Cobb Highway, Mathoura NSW. The Carmel of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Nebraska, United States - Latin There is no doubt as to his contempt for the celebration of the Mass of the ages, nor for classical practice of religious life and for any and all tradition unless it serves his purpose to radically alter the nature and character of Roman Catholicism.
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